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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dave, re the special effects &quot;which were, no doubt, amazing at the time&quot;, Classic Who throughout its entire history suffered from very tight budgets as the BBC at various points couldn&#039;t make up their collective minds as to what they actually wanted from the show or indeed if they even wanted it at all. This undoubtedly did often affect the overall quality of the finished product with hardly ever enough time or money to achieve decent production values, sort out scripting (rather than writing) issues satisfactorily, achieve half way decent effects; even studio time was budgeted tightly with many scenes having to be acted out in one or two takes max!  Having said all of that, &#039;Genesis&#039; IMO is proof that despite all of these issues, some great work could still be achieved, largely because this particular story successfully introduces an interesting &amp; credible (as far as these things go!) back story for the Daleks which has often been referenced down the years. By the way, the saving grace of the Easter special WAS Michelle Ryan in a catsuit &amp; nothing you can say will convince me otherwise...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dave, re the special effects &#8220;which were, no doubt, amazing at the time&#8221;, Classic Who throughout its entire history suffered from very tight budgets as the BBC at various points couldn&#8217;t make up their collective minds as to what they actually wanted from the show or indeed if they even wanted it at all. This undoubtedly did often affect the overall quality of the finished product with hardly ever enough time or money to achieve decent production values, sort out scripting (rather than writing) issues satisfactorily, achieve half way decent effects; even studio time was budgeted tightly with many scenes having to be acted out in one or two takes max!  Having said all of that, &#8216;Genesis&#8217; IMO is proof that despite all of these issues, some great work could still be achieved, largely because this particular story successfully introduces an interesting &amp; credible (as far as these things go!) back story for the Daleks which has often been referenced down the years. By the way, the saving grace of the Easter special WAS Michelle Ryan in a catsuit &amp; nothing you can say will convince me otherwise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 11:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Long Post: Oh crap... sorry forgot where I was for a minute. 

Re Darkness... SOME POINTS of the easter special were darker than SOME POINTS of GotD. Genocide is, admittedly, a bit dark. But so is Planet turned to dustbowl in a short time... in apparently less time, in fact, than it would take to sit through GotD.

Re Cutscenes... you did warn me, but seriously, you could watch Top Gun... TWICE... in the time it takes to get through them. And I&#039;m only up to level 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Long Post: Oh crap&#8230; sorry forgot where I was for a minute. </p>
<p>Re Darkness&#8230; SOME POINTS of the easter special were darker than SOME POINTS of GotD. Genocide is, admittedly, a bit dark. But so is Planet turned to dustbowl in a short time&#8230; in apparently less time, in fact, than it would take to sit through GotD.</p>
<p>Re Cutscenes&#8230; you did warn me, but seriously, you could watch Top Gun&#8230; TWICE&#8230; in the time it takes to get through them. And I&#8217;m only up to level 4.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodafowa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodafowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the &quot;reject comments that are longer than the actual post&quot; button on this thing? ;)

Also: the Easter Special was darker than Genesis Of The Daleks? The Doctor almost commits sodding GENOCIDE in GotD, for flip&#039;s sake!

Also also: I warned you about those cutscenes. I prefer them to the mission briefings in H.A.W.(ks - Ed), though, which has an insultingly stupid storyline. And no giant flying aircraft-carriers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the &#8220;reject comments that are longer than the actual post&#8221; button on this thing? <img src='http://www.rodafowa.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also: the Easter Special was darker than Genesis Of The Daleks? The Doctor almost commits sodding GENOCIDE in GotD, for flip&#8217;s sake!</p>
<p>Also also: I warned you about those cutscenes. I prefer them to the mission briefings in H.A.W.(ks &#8211; Ed), though, which has an insultingly stupid storyline. And no giant flying aircraft-carriers.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ace Combat 6 not 5.

DAMN YOU MONKEY HANDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ace Combat 6 not 5.</p>
<p>DAMN YOU MONKEY HANDS.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A side note on Ace Combat 5... who are they aiming the dready cutscenes at? Under 20&#039;s will just skip through them, since they slow down the wanton distruction. Over 20&#039;s will skip through them since they will bring the bleak tang of real life into their hard-fought-for escapism. Girls wouldn&#039;t be seen dead playing a air combat sim so would never see them and, er, that&#039;s it isn&#039;t it?

They should have just put up a quick note saying &quot;was is bad&quot; and a few cutscenes of arial awesomeness. Like CoD 4 did, actually...

Oh, and did you see that Top Gun is proven even MORE homo-eroctic now: Kelly Mcgillis has come out as a lesbian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A side note on Ace Combat 5&#8230; who are they aiming the dready cutscenes at? Under 20&#8242;s will just skip through them, since they slow down the wanton distruction. Over 20&#8242;s will skip through them since they will bring the bleak tang of real life into their hard-fought-for escapism. Girls wouldn&#8217;t be seen dead playing a air combat sim so would never see them and, er, that&#8217;s it isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>They should have just put up a quick note saying &#8220;was is bad&#8221; and a few cutscenes of arial awesomeness. Like CoD 4 did, actually&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, and did you see that Top Gun is proven even MORE homo-eroctic now: Kelly Mcgillis has come out as a lesbian.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh Rob... I&#039;m walking on thin ice here, but I did (on a whim) rent out &quot;Genisis of the Daleks&quot; last week (n.b. side thought - Genesis and Daleks together at last - wouldn&#039;t that be cool! They can only do a better job of singing than Phil Collins... but I digress), since I was too young to remember much of it at the time. In summary, it was a lot shitter verses most of the new stuff. It&#039;s 70&#039;s Tom Baker, but a lot of it was truely awful! It&#039;s often voted (so it said on the packed) the best Tom Baker era story too! Not being funny, but the Dr gets rendered unconcious by a sharp blow to the head about 10 times throughout (surely a drinking game in the making) - at one point twice in the space of 5 minutes!

Maybe it&#039;s not the period of the 1970&#039;s you mean, but even before you take into account the special effects (which were, no doubt, amazing at the time...), it really suffered from being about 3 hours too long. It had way too many &quot;WTF&quot; moments - spoiler alert: Davros (half man, half dustbin) somehow manages to convince an entire species that he is their best shot of supremecy, despite looking and sounding absoulutely nuts! He apparently creates the Daleks on the basis that everyone is resigned to the fact that they are going to be mutated and need a way of getting around when the inevitable happens, without anyone saying &quot;hang on, you look really shit in your weird granny-wagon. Why should we be looking to you to for advice on futuristic travel plans?&quot;. It just didn&#039;t make sense.

OK, so it&#039;s one isolated example, but it did jog a few memories - I think a lot of Dr Who in the 1970&#039;s was like that - made no sense, was too long, and had awful expositions. As for &quot;Dark&quot;... well, some points of the easter special were dark, and in fact darker than GotD.

In fact, the easter special suffered from the very opposite to all this - the story as it turned out made as much sense as it could, timewise was pretty sharp on the mark, and exposition was swift and relatively painless, but it was all just a bit bland. Maybe I&#039;ve been spoiled by some fairly nifty Who of late, but this was dull. In summary - Bus breaks down, gets fixed, all home in time for tea (except the poor sap who got killed, in fine Who style, to demonstrate how much peril everyone was in and a couple of fly-men who were just asking to get swatted at some stage). I also disliked the whole &quot;they&#039;ve ripped off Pitch Black&quot; feeling I got from watching it. You could never accuse GotD of ripping off anything other than, say, Naziism (even Herr Gruber from Allo Allo was there in uniform - albeit 10 years too early).


The saving grace wasn&#039;t Michelle Ryan in a catsuit (p.s. Rob, a catsuit does NOT make an attractive, mid 20&#039;s, big busted lass a good actress - although she still outscores Billy Piper on all fronts. Yes those as well...), it was the nice link right at the end into the next twist. The occasional big jaw dropping revelation is part and parcel of Dr Who nowadays, and what makes it fun is seeing how it pans out! 


I&#039;m sure Steven Moffat will be able to do a fine job, but Matt Smith is going to have to be nothing short of a revelation to out-Who David Tennant (who is definitely in my top 3 and a firm contender for Best Dr Who Ever). 

Mind you... Men In Black 2 vs Men in Black 1.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh Rob&#8230; I&#8217;m walking on thin ice here, but I did (on a whim) rent out &#8220;Genisis of the Daleks&#8221; last week (n.b. side thought &#8211; Genesis and Daleks together at last &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t that be cool! They can only do a better job of singing than Phil Collins&#8230; but I digress), since I was too young to remember much of it at the time. In summary, it was a lot shitter verses most of the new stuff. It&#8217;s 70&#8242;s Tom Baker, but a lot of it was truely awful! It&#8217;s often voted (so it said on the packed) the best Tom Baker era story too! Not being funny, but the Dr gets rendered unconcious by a sharp blow to the head about 10 times throughout (surely a drinking game in the making) &#8211; at one point twice in the space of 5 minutes!</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s not the period of the 1970&#8242;s you mean, but even before you take into account the special effects (which were, no doubt, amazing at the time&#8230;), it really suffered from being about 3 hours too long. It had way too many &#8220;WTF&#8221; moments &#8211; spoiler alert: Davros (half man, half dustbin) somehow manages to convince an entire species that he is their best shot of supremecy, despite looking and sounding absoulutely nuts! He apparently creates the Daleks on the basis that everyone is resigned to the fact that they are going to be mutated and need a way of getting around when the inevitable happens, without anyone saying &#8220;hang on, you look really shit in your weird granny-wagon. Why should we be looking to you to for advice on futuristic travel plans?&#8221;. It just didn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
<p>OK, so it&#8217;s one isolated example, but it did jog a few memories &#8211; I think a lot of Dr Who in the 1970&#8242;s was like that &#8211; made no sense, was too long, and had awful expositions. As for &#8220;Dark&#8221;&#8230; well, some points of the easter special were dark, and in fact darker than GotD.</p>
<p>In fact, the easter special suffered from the very opposite to all this &#8211; the story as it turned out made as much sense as it could, timewise was pretty sharp on the mark, and exposition was swift and relatively painless, but it was all just a bit bland. Maybe I&#8217;ve been spoiled by some fairly nifty Who of late, but this was dull. In summary &#8211; Bus breaks down, gets fixed, all home in time for tea (except the poor sap who got killed, in fine Who style, to demonstrate how much peril everyone was in and a couple of fly-men who were just asking to get swatted at some stage). I also disliked the whole &#8220;they&#8217;ve ripped off Pitch Black&#8221; feeling I got from watching it. You could never accuse GotD of ripping off anything other than, say, Naziism (even Herr Gruber from Allo Allo was there in uniform &#8211; albeit 10 years too early).</p>
<p>The saving grace wasn&#8217;t Michelle Ryan in a catsuit (p.s. Rob, a catsuit does NOT make an attractive, mid 20&#8242;s, big busted lass a good actress &#8211; although she still outscores Billy Piper on all fronts. Yes those as well&#8230;), it was the nice link right at the end into the next twist. The occasional big jaw dropping revelation is part and parcel of Dr Who nowadays, and what makes it fun is seeing how it pans out! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Steven Moffat will be able to do a fine job, but Matt Smith is going to have to be nothing short of a revelation to out-Who David Tennant (who is definitely in my top 3 and a firm contender for Best Dr Who Ever). </p>
<p>Mind you&#8230; Men In Black 2 vs Men in Black 1.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.rodafowa.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I can&#039;t resist a piece that features Doctor Who. Totally agree with your comments about the Easter special although the lingering disappointment that Michelle Ryan isn&#039;t going to be the new companion is what sticks most in the mind as I thought she was great &amp; at times looked like she might steal the show. To hell with the stupid flying bus though! RTD has come in for a lot of criticism over the last four years; some of it fair but at the end of the day, we probably wouldn&#039;t have had any 21st Century Who without his energy &amp; enthusiasm so all power to him! Have to say that I&#039;m quite optimistic at the prospect of Steven Moffat taking over the reins though; some of the best New Who stories IMO have been penned by him (Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, Girl in the Fireplace, Blink, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead) &amp; he may also be able to rope in a lot more of the Classic Who fans who criticised RTD so much for not making New Who darker &amp; scarier; many Classic Who fans (self include) feel that the Tom Baker &quot;dark &amp; gothic&quot; period of the late 70&#039;s was arguably the peak of the original series stuff. Of course, all this musing about the writing may lose some of its relevance  if Matt Smith isn&#039;t up to the job as the new Doctor. The jury is out currently on that one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I can&#8217;t resist a piece that features Doctor Who. Totally agree with your comments about the Easter special although the lingering disappointment that Michelle Ryan isn&#8217;t going to be the new companion is what sticks most in the mind as I thought she was great &amp; at times looked like she might steal the show. To hell with the stupid flying bus though! RTD has come in for a lot of criticism over the last four years; some of it fair but at the end of the day, we probably wouldn&#8217;t have had any 21st Century Who without his energy &amp; enthusiasm so all power to him! Have to say that I&#8217;m quite optimistic at the prospect of Steven Moffat taking over the reins though; some of the best New Who stories IMO have been penned by him (Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, Girl in the Fireplace, Blink, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead) &amp; he may also be able to rope in a lot more of the Classic Who fans who criticised RTD so much for not making New Who darker &amp; scarier; many Classic Who fans (self include) feel that the Tom Baker &#8220;dark &amp; gothic&#8221; period of the late 70&#8242;s was arguably the peak of the original series stuff. Of course, all this musing about the writing may lose some of its relevance  if Matt Smith isn&#8217;t up to the job as the new Doctor. The jury is out currently on that one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Moo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 09:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try really hard to like Doctor Who, basically because the eldest is a huge fan.  But I just can&#039;t bring myself to thinking that it&#039;s anything other than poor.It looks pretty, there&#039;s some good acting, but some of the storylines are just a mess.  I just hope that the new guy talks a little bit slower when the &quot;we&#039;re two thirds of the way through this episode so I need to explain what has happened, why and how we&#039;re going to sort it out now just to show you how clever I am&quot; bit happens.  It&#039;s almost as predictable as the Eastern Bloc(k) voting in the Eurovision.  Are you having a party for that again this year?  Last year&#039;s was soooo much fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try really hard to like Doctor Who, basically because the eldest is a huge fan.  But I just can&#8217;t bring myself to thinking that it&#8217;s anything other than poor.It looks pretty, there&#8217;s some good acting, but some of the storylines are just a mess.  I just hope that the new guy talks a little bit slower when the &#8220;we&#8217;re two thirds of the way through this episode so I need to explain what has happened, why and how we&#8217;re going to sort it out now just to show you how clever I am&#8221; bit happens.  It&#8217;s almost as predictable as the Eastern Bloc(k) voting in the Eurovision.  Are you having a party for that again this year?  Last year&#8217;s was soooo much fun!</p>
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